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Katie: Good day, and welcome to “The Wellness Mama Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com. That’s wellness with an E on the top. And this subject is gonna be in all probability a brand new one for some individuals listening. And I’ll admit there are parts of it I’m nonetheless studying and don’t absolutely perceive but. However we speak about creating and curating life pressure vitality, additionally about issues like lowering EMFs and the way that ties in as effectively. And I’m right here with the founders of FLFE, which is Targeted Life Pressure Power. And we speak about issues like excessive consciousness fields, harmonizing with versus mitigating EMFs and what that appears like, how they examined this expertise and the scientific backing for it, and an entire lot of different instructions.
I’m right here with two individuals, Jeff and Clayten. Clayten has over 25 years of expertise on this discipline, and he’s the scholar of Dr. David Hawkins in kinesiology. And he has an entire set of protocols associated to this. We get in-depth then I clarify extra what it’s. I do know it sounds a little bit esoteric proper now. However he has a variety of work within the exploration of consciousness and non-linear therapeutic applied sciences, together with the event of this program, FLFE with Jeff Stegman, who has targeted on making a excessive consciousness tradition in his companies, and in companies round and associated to this expertise. So like I mentioned, we get into the specifics. They clarify higher than I might what that is and the way it works. However basically, it’s about making a discipline inside your property that’s calming and loving, and in addition has a measurable impact they’re discovering in analysis in harmonizing EMFs. So I’ll allow them to clarify it from right here. With out additional ado, let’s be a part of Jeff and Clayten. Clayten and Jeff, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here at this time.
Jeff: Glad to be with you, Katie.
Clayten: Good to see you, Katie.
Katie: I’m excited for this dialog. And we’re gonna get to go deep on one explicit subject that I feel is likely to be considerably new for the viewers after which a variety of completely different subtopics beneath that.
However earlier than we bounce into that, I might love to simply let the viewers hear a little bit background about each of you and the way you bought into this space of analysis. I’ve notes that, Jeff, you’re turning into a farmer to use a few of the issues we’re going to speak about at this time. And that Clayten was a industrial fisherman in earlier life. So I might love to simply hear possibly a few of the story of what introduced you each to this work.
Jeff: I might begin. Yeah, it appears from an early childhood, I like science fiction. I like getting misplaced and like the potential for a a lot greater world than we noticed round us. And even in late grade college, early highschool, I did sensory deprivation experiments with myself and was in search of methods to go away my physique. However in the meantime, each toes have been on the bottom, have been on the bottom. I constructed a household enterprise with my brother, very long-term staff, and constructing a acutely aware tradition of form of, you recognize, heart-centered enterprise.
And that’s how I met Clayten. He was really teaching in enterprise as a non secular path. And so I started to work with him. I used to be an early meditator, too. I began… My mom, she’s very good. I used to be smoking pot on the time in highschool, or really early eighth grade, so she launched me to transcendental meditation. And the medicine ended. And I’ve meditated together with her, you recognize, for the following…doing transcendental meditation by way of highschool.
So simply early on, I’ve actually been eager about form of what’s behind, you recognize, what’s below the hood of life. And my time with Clayten, when he was teaching me, was digging below that hood. It’s like, he used kinesiology or muscle testing to check my degree of consciousness in several areas of my life. And he would discover these hidden gems that I believed I hid so effectively. In truth, typically, they have been so effectively hidden, they have been unconscious.
However discovering these low consciousness areas in my life then allowed me to consciously work and lift these areas up and expertise extra freedom and pleasure, you recognize, and love in these areas of my life. That was form of the trail that took us to the FLFE expertise that we found, which is a consciousness expertise that prompts excessive consciousness fields. And I can hand it off to you, Clayten. You found it then introduced me in.
Clayten: Yeah, effectively, as Katie mentioned, I used to be a industrial fisherman at one level in my life. And so, it does connect with my upbringing the place I discovered peace in nature. That was the place that I might all the time go. And a variety of that I discovered by way of fishing. I spent a variety of time strolling alongside the perimeters of rivers, and I feel in all probability the mixture of train and getting the physique drained sufficient in order that the chatter of the thoughts is lowered. And being within the presence of fantastic thing about nature, that’s the place I discovered a variety of my peace as a younger man.
And there have been some choices once I was in highschool. Considered one of them was touring and seeing a little bit of the world earlier than I decided as to what I wished to do on the earth. And so, I did journey for some time. And I used to be a kind of folks that… Now, it’s known as van life, again then it was a truck and camper. So, I like, “Oh, you recognize, I wish to have a spot to sleep. I don’t wish to sleep in a tent.” So I purchased an previous truck and an previous camper and an previous… I feel they name them beaters. I don’t know what they name beaters down the place you reside, however they name them beaters up right here.
So I drove round Canada for a few 12 months and, you recognize, I did form of labor-type jobs. So fishing was considered one of them. I labored within the oil discipline, you recognize. I did labor jobs. I used to be a younger man with not a variety of training and coaching, in order that’s the work that was accessible to me.
And I obtained concerned in a philosophical group fairly, fairly deeply. I used to be actually eager about making an attempt to make sense of some issues in my life and on the earth. And so, I figured I wanted to get actually good at one explicit approach of life. And so I select a philosophy and I obtained deeply concerned in that. And that led me into training.
I spent about 11 years from about ’84 to ’95 within the training discipline. I used to be a industrial fisherman for some time. And I form of went again to that a part of my life as a result of I actually loved it. However my love for training and educating and studying was greater. In order that led me into particular person teaching again in 1995, which is historic within the teaching world.
And since I’d spent 11 years on this Japanese-based philosophy, earlier than that in working in non-public faculties, I selected a specialty of working with enterprise leaders who thought of enterprise their non secular path. And I selected that as a result of, on the earth, evidently enterprise has the ability proper now for good or for unhealthy, proper? Prior to now, it may need been the humanities or, you recognize, sure time in our historical past, it was a faith or non secular establishments.
So I figured I might do probably the most good on the earth with the least quantity of effort. I imply, it’s only one particular person. Not that I didn’t wish to make an effort, however you form of search for that candy spot the place you are able to do probably the most good together with your effort. And for me, it was enterprise leaders who thought of their enterprise as their non secular path.
Jeff and I are gearheads. So we prefer to tinker with issues and machines. And I labored at a gasoline station like 4 years, half time, once I was in highschool. I took the tutorial half of highschool, however I additionally took store. I took auto store and machine store and electronics and blueprint studying. So it’s fairly oriented in the direction of that. My dad was a tradesman printer and so our household was form of technical that approach.
And so, finally, you recognize, and a mixture of exploring kinesiology and being eager about form of machines and training, I got here throughout this inventor who was a part of a gaggle of inventors who…they have been making an attempt to create a free vitality machine for humanity. They usually didn’t do this. However they form of stumbled upon a option to focus lifeforce vitality on objects.
Little did I do know that was the start of the FLFE, you recognize, journey. Yeah, this man was simply form of energizing these crystals and placing them round his home. And his home was like superb. And it’s such a highly-charged surroundings. So I obtained to know this gentleman, and we labored collectively for a number of years after which I launched Jeff to him. And yeah, it’s a part of the journey.
Katie: I very a lot resonate together with your story in saying, like, “The place can my effort take advantage of distinction and supply probably the most love?” And for me, I’m in deep gratitude day by day that my work is with different ladies and mothers. As a result of, for me, I feel that’s a part of my life function is that we assist mothers. We assist not simply mothers, however households and the tradition as an entire. And in order that’s why I used to be excited to get to have this dialog with you guys.
And also you talked about excessive consciousness fields, which I’m guessing is a brand new time period, probably, for lots of people listening. So I might love to begin very fundamental and broad and have you ever guys clarify that idea and possibly give some examples to assist individuals form of perceive and anchor what meaning.
Jeff: Mm hmm. We imagine that consciousness is in all places. That it’s throughout us. And we observe Dr. David Hawkins’ work. Considered one of his books is “Energy vs. Pressure.” And he outlined consciousness fields and ranges of consciousness. And I might say that we expertise this day by day. That everybody experiences it day by day.
So in case you’re strolling world wide, and also you go into someplace that’s very elevated, it’s a excessive consciousness space. In order that could possibly be, you recognize, a synagogue or church or cathedral, significantly a few of the cathedrals in Europe, very excessive as a result of they have been designed that approach with the structure and the form of the options of the earth the place they constructed the cathedrals.
So whenever you stroll into a spot like that, I skilled it in my physique, it’s like an vitality, like virtually an pleasure and a calmness. Like my thoughts begins to actually settle down. And I’ve seen that in cathedrals, once I was touring Europe, the place I might stroll within the door, I might really feel just like the nearer I obtained to the entrance of the…to the nave, the entrance of the church, the stronger it obtained, and clean or my thoughts went. And what that what that impact is strolling right into a excessive consciousness discipline that’s getting increased and better, the nearer you get to the place the place the priesthood would do his factor.
In low consciousness fields, you possibly can expertise in an previous jail, a battleground. Like, in case you’ve ever been to a kind of locations, there’s this form of a low-energy feeling like a heaviness, possibly even feelings or ideas might come up. And we imagine that thought varieties and feelings could be current traditionally in a location like that, or each location that human beings are such robust broadcasters of our vitality that it may be held in a crystalline construction of the constructing supplies or the bottom or drywall even.
So these are some examples strolling round. And it’s form of that feeling individuals speak about, like, “I don’t just like the vitality of this place.” or, “This feels actually good.” Properly, it’s a sense in our our bodies. And we imagine our our bodies are very delicate devices to this as a result of it’s a part of our survival. Such as you stroll into a spot that doesn’t really feel good, you get on edge, you recognize, you’re like wanting over your shoulder, like, what’s happening right here? And that, you recognize, helps us to cope with what is likely to be coming. So we imagine these fields are in all places. And what the FLFE expertise does is to activate a excessive consciousness discipline just like the cathedral really feel.
Katie: Clayten, do you’ve any follow-up to that earlier than I ask add-on query?
Clayten: You already know, I’ve some sensible examples of this. And possibly one that may not be distinctive to ladies, however I feel they’ll respect. A sensible instance of a excessive consciousness discipline can be your considering… There’s an simple bond, in my expertise, and within the expertise of each mom I’ve ever talked to, between a mom and her baby. It’s not that males don’t have a connection as effectively. However it’s only a completely different connection.
So whenever you’re considering of anyone, and also you’re questioning how they’re doing, and also you’re sending them a constructive thought, after which they name you, they mentioned, “I used to be simply fascinated by you,” proper? I’ve by no means talked to a mom who doesn’t find out about that. So that may be an instance of a excessive consciousness discipline.
Now, I imply, that would flip to fret. As a substitute of like consciousness, it might flip to fret and concern. However I might say that the FLFE expertise has some parallels to the capability that people need to create a connection between love and one other particular person or one other house.
And I don’t know why I’m simply having this thought to inform you the story. So I’ve some pals on Salt Spring Island in Canada. I used to dwell in Vancouver. I’m up in Nelson now. That’s the place the pinnacle workplace of the corporate is.
And I went over to Salt Spring Island to go to these individuals. And this woman, she was…there was a gaggle of birthing. There was a birthing class there. I don’t know in the event that they known as them doulas or it was simply ladies who assist infants get born. There’s a reputation for it, it can come to me. Midwives.
So this woman was on this group. And it simply so occurred that morning, one of many mornings I used to be there, there was a delivery that occurred. She’d been up a lot of the evening, and this child had been born. And she or he got here again to the home for a minute as a result of she needed to get one thing and he or she went to return.
And the vitality that she got here in with was, it was extraordinary. And it’s like, I mentioned, “What simply occurred? You’re simply glowing.” She mentioned, “Properly, this child simply obtained born.” And she or he mentioned, “It’s like a miracle.” You already know, it’s an vitality of like miraculous magnificence and love. And I used to be identical to, to today, I identical to, I can simply take into consideration that and I can really feel it.
And she or he mentioned, “You already know, I’m simply considering of getting one other baby. It’s such a fantastic factor to deliver into the world.” And for some cause, I’m getting… I’ve by no means advised that story to very many individuals, however I feel, for you, Katie, that simply feels so related as a result of a variety of the individuals you serve are moms.
And if a mom has skilled that, she’s skilled a rare vitality discipline. As a result of I feel, when a toddler will get born, one thing occurs that’s superb. And I haven’t seen a delivery. And I haven’t actually been shut to at least one. However that’s the closest I’ve ever been possibly inside quarter-hour, half an hour.
So, FLFE can’t create that sort of surroundings, however it does create like a sanctuary, a sacred, like a holy place form of surroundings in its personal approach. It relies upon, you recognize. Folks have a variety of affect on it. We simply can’t make the surroundings be a sure approach. However we are able to actually have it’s a kind of, you recognize, a consciousness degree that’s unconditionally loving. After which it’s as much as everyone else so as to add to what they will and what they need from there.
Katie: I like that you simply used that for instance. I’m really a doula and have began supply coaching. In all probability, the six most impactful moments of my life are the six moments that my kids have been born. And I feel you’re precisely spot on. And I’ve now had the distinction of being at many births as effectively, and holding house for these ladies. And there’s a very particular shift in that room, particularly like main as much as and round that second of delivery.
And I bear in mind very clearly, when my first baby was born, that simply overwhelming feeling of affection and bliss and peace and like that connection that was fast to him. And like having that realization of, “Wow. I like individuals in my life. However I’ve by no means skilled this degree of affection till this second.”
And it was neat as a result of that then, I really feel like, rippled out to different relationships in my life. Prefer it upgraded my capability to like everybody, not simply my child. And so after we speak about consciousness, I feel you’re proper. Mothers can resonate with that innate feeling that possibly you’ll be able to’t tangibly put into phrases so simply, however you recognize that feeling relating to your kids.
I do really feel like in all probability everybody has heard of the time period consciousness by now. It’s simply tossed round loads. I feel typically possibly it will get misused or tied into a variety of different issues. However let’s go a little bit deeper on the thought of consciousness You talked about Dr. Hawkins. Form of stroll us by way of how that is measured or possibly simply give us some tangible metrics. As a result of I feel it could actually really feel like an summary idea to lots of people. So I’d like to form of like anchor that in and make it as tangible as potential earlier than we bounce into extra specifics.
Jeff: I might begin and hand it off to you, Clayten. Yeah, these examples, you recognize, that second of a child being born, which I’ve skilled twice with my very own kids. And I used to be simply getting goosebumps whereas we have been speaking about it.
So, you recognize, there’s a consciousness discipline there that will get activated. After which we are able to take into consideration that and entry it ourselves later, such as you mentioned. And as we mentioned, there’s excessive fields just like the cathedrals. There’s decrease locations, like, you recognize, the place there’s been grief or torture, you recognize, tragedy of some type. In truth, in Japan, if somebody commits suicide in an condo, individuals gained’t lease it as a result of there’s extra more likely to be one other suicide. In order that’s a consciousness discipline there.
So Dr. David Hawkins created the Map of Consciousness that goes from one, you recognize, there’s all the time some consciousness to infinity. So you possibly can say the divinity is infinity. And within the human realm, it’s to 1000. And so forth that scale, which is logarithmic, every level upward is 10 occasions extra vitality current within the discipline. So down beneath, 200 on that map, you recognize, there’s lethargy and despair and a few of the decrease vitality, decrease consciousness discipline. So like, in case you’re round anyone that’s depressed, that heavy feeling, that’s a low consciousness discipline. After which, as you progress over 200, you’re shifting into hope and into the love zone at 500. And I’ll allow you to take it from there, Clayten, you’ve obtained a lot expertise on this.
Clayten: We do a variety of kinesiology testing, Katie, within the firm. And so, unconditional love begins round 540. And round 600, you begin to get into peace, 700 on the Hawkins map is enlightenment. And from 700 to 1000 are form of the realms of the mystic enlightened beings who lived on the planet, the Buddhas, the Krishnas, the Jesus, these forms of beings.
Should you’re a few of the feelings beneath 200, usually, the dimensions of consciousness begins at 20 at disgrace, then 50 is form of apathy, 100 is worry, 150 is anger, 190 is form of extreme delight. And it’s simply form of that 200 mark is the place issues change into constructive.
So we now have braveness at 200, 250 is impartial, 300 is willingness. Yeah, 300-350 is willingness, like nearer to 350. Then 400 is cause, whenever you get into logic and the professions like accounting, you recognize, skilled requirements, authorized occupation. And 500 is love.
And so, the FLFE surroundings, we assure it, will probably be at… So we now have a consciousness slider the place you’ll be able to really slide the extent of consciousness and transfer it up and down in your property. It should by no means take vitality away. However it can add it as much as that degree to make sure it’s at that degree or extra. And you’ll transfer it from 400 to 570.
So the default for FLFE is 550. And that’s the space of unconditional love, so it’s 550 out of 1000. We assure that 98% of the time, or no matter degree you set it at, 98% of the time over a 24-hour interval. As a result of issues do occur in a home or in any surroundings the place there’s a disruption for a little bit bit.
And also you wish to positively affect the surroundings, however you don’t wish to take individuals’s management away. I imply, you’re a sovereign particular person. It’s not anyone’s place to regulate it. However we do add a variety of like to it. After which, from there, it’s what individuals make of it.
We even have issues like boosts. You may increase the consciousness for half an hour as much as 600. So these issues like… As a result of we now have a management panel, you go in, and also you get to be your personal consciousness experimenter, or I suppose… Can we name it that, Jeff? Can we name it that? Yeah, that’s kinda the title for it, however you get to experiment with ranges of consciousness in your personal approach of referring to it.
Katie: I consider that as I usually speak concerning the vitamin and bodily well being facet. And I say usually to individuals, “You’re your personal main healthcare supplier and your personal well being researcher. And you’ll work with superb practitioners and companions in that. However on the finish of the day, that experimentation and that duty resides in every of us individually, and nobody else can take over that duty for us.” And so I really feel like that is making use of that very same thought to this different realm that possibly individuals haven’t thought of.
And also you talked about kinesiology, and I’ll admit that is an space I haven’t executed a ton of analysis on it, and I do know I like have it up to now at the very least been skeptical about, and I’m making an attempt to grasp higher. So I might love so that you can clarify kinesiology and the way that course of works a little bit bit in case you don’t thoughts.
Jeff: So form of going again to the sensitivity that all of us have, so whenever you stroll into that room, and it doesn’t really feel proper or the vitality feels good. So we imagine our our bodies are devices, robust devices, for measuring consciousness round us, these consciousness fields.
And kinesiology is a muscle testing. So this has, you recognize, been pioneered by numerous individuals. And Dr. Hawkins took it to a different degree the place it’s the energy of the muscle within the presence of fact. So the idea is that we’re linked in our core to all that’s, whether or not it’s dimensional or it’s divine, nonetheless you consider it. We’re linked to all that’s. And that presence of fact is strengthening to the system. And the presence of falsehood is weakening. So it’s the precept of the energy of the muscle, you recognize, within the presence of a press release.
So the assertion, you recognize, it’s both true or it’s not true. And there could also be gradation. So we measure on a scale the place we might say, you recognize, on a scale of 1 to 1000, Dr. David Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness, degree of consciousness of this property over the earlier 24 hours calibrates at, you recognize, robust 200 or extra, robust 400 or extra, robust 500 or extra, weak 600 or extra. After which again up, you recognize, 520 or extra robust, 530 or extra, 540 or extra robust, 550 weak. It’s between 540 and 550.
So, we now have a group of folks that do that testing. And what we do is we check individually, after which, you recognize, evaluate. So we’re doing the testing of the properties, after which Clayten and I’ve executed thousands and thousands of those sorts of assessments on the event of FLFE. And yeah, it’s a bit on the market.
However you see it in allergists. I went to an allergist the place he had a cuff on me that measured the strain of his finger in order that it wouldn’t…you recognize, he wasn’t urgent more durable on my arm to maintain it, you recognize, make it go down. After which, he would hand me these jars of supplies, and I might put it near my chest, and I’d be robust, robust, till I obtained a jar that I used to be allergic to, after which it will be weak. In order that was an attention-grabbing form of a approach of measuring the pressure the that you simply’re placing on the arm. And if in case you have one other query or we are able to move it on to Clayten.
Clayten: One other sensible instance of kinesiology that’s utilized in day-to-day life is allergists but additionally nutritionists. Should you go to a nutritionist, they’ll maintain dietary supplements in entrance of you, and so they’ll scale them as to how good they’re.
And I’ve been going to chiropractors for, I don’t know, 20-something years. And though my favourite ones and those that I hold going again to are those that do kinesiology. You’re on the desk. They do a few customary changes. After which, you recognize, usually, if I’m mendacity there, they’ll put my arm up, and so they’ll push it down and see how robust it’s. And if it’s weak, then they’ll do a few changes, after which it’s stronger, proper? They usually’ll go to the opposite arm or they’ll go to the leg. And, you recognize, that’s a type of kinesiology.
I don’t know a lot about chiropractic, however I used to be advised there’s seven faculties of chiropractic, and considered one of them is kinesiology targeted. And that’s the way it appears like in a chiropractor’s workplace, the place they’ll assess your physique. They make an adjustment. They check the energy of the muscle. And that’s how they know the adjustment is finished. And so it’s used loads on the earth. It’s simply the consciousness side of it’s, it’s form of distinctive. Properly, it’s an rising discipline. I wouldn’t say it’s distinctive, it’s rising.
Katie: Yeah, and I feel I’ve solely ever actually had publicity to it within the chiropractic context. And I’m glad I’ve you guys right here to ask this as a result of I’ve been so genuinely interested in this for a very long time. And form of the concept’s been popularized lately of the thought of Biology of Perception, and if we imagine one thing, that may affect.
And so I’ve all the time puzzled, relating to kinesiology and muscle testing, does bias on the a part of both the particular person being examined, or the tester come into play in any respect? I do know you mentioned it’s centered in fact and true statements. I’ve simply been very interested in that. Like if somebody believes one thing is nice for them, would the physique reply extra strongly? Or, if the tester believes one thing is nice for them, does that impression it in any respect?
Clayten: One of many methods you’d cope with that’s you’d do what we name blind testing. Let’s say that I used to be the calibrator. I used to be making the assertion. You have been the topic, Katie, I’ll be pushing your arm down. And Jeff was the auditor. Proper? In order that’s how we are going to usually study kinesiology collectively. So you’ve a calibrator, a topic, and an auditor.
So on this case, the auditor wouldn’t have a lot of a job. However what I might do is I might make the constructive declarative assertion solely in my thoughts. You wouldn’t know what I’m saying. In order that’s one option to handle bias. And one other approach is to actually have your declarative statements be pristine of their accuracy. Should you get ok at this, you’ll be able to measure the extent of consciousness of your statements.
And, you recognize, over time, there are methods to… You already know, after we do our property testing, there’s normally at the very least three of us. So there’s methods of in search of statistical validation by way of imply averages of teams. There’s methods to handle it. And to say that bias doesn’t matter, I don’t suppose can be a good assertion. You simply need to study to handle bias.
Like if there’s a subject, you’ll be able to check your degree of consciousness of fact on that subject, proper? After which you’ll be able to check the extent of acutely aware…of your intent in the direction of an consequence. So there’s a bunch of issues you are able to do to extend the chances of you getting good information within the surroundings, together with testing unknown controls, you recognize, earlier than you go in.
So it’s a occupation. Lots of people simply suppose, “Oh, I might simply choose up a e-book and study it and a half an hour.” It’s like, effectively, possibly you’ll be able to, however if you wish to get good at it, my sense is it takes a few years. That’s what your expertise is, Jeff, like.
Jeff: Yeah, I feel the bias, it’s an vital query. And a few of these biases are unconscious. And that’s why we now have teams, you recognize, as a result of… and we’ll be engaged on one thing and two of us get one reply, one particular person will get one other, “All proper, let’s cease. Let’s…” You already know, could possibly be that one particular person has change into dehydrated as a result of the physique must be in actually good condition, so having hydration at a sure degree. If it will get low sufficient…I don’t know in case you’ve ever skilled that we get cranky, whenever you get, you’re thirsty. That’s like, that’s a swap. So that you’ve gone destructive. So that you really get the alternative end in kinesiology when that occurs.
Yeah, it’s an attention-grabbing topic. And we’ve been deep in it for 10 years or so, and Clayten for much longer earlier than that, however he taught me how you can do it. After which we now have a group of individuals within the enterprise that help us.
And it’s actually an attention-grabbing instrument. I imply, you’ll be able to actually uncover issues, the reality of one thing. And relating to analysis within the enterprise… So we work with Dr. Gary Schwartz on our analysis group. He’s written numerous books within the College of Arizona. And he’s been an awesome bridge between science and a few of these new vitality therapeutic methods. He’s executed fairly a little bit of analysis with biophoton cameras and Reiki and other forms of methods. And he’s actually eager to do a kinesiology research with us this 12 months. So we’re seemingly to try this this 12 months.
Katie: It does really feel like we’re in a spot the place we’re beginning to see that merge of expertise and science, understanding issues which have actually form of an age previous and a variety of different practices. And it’s actually fascinating to me to get to look at that development occur. And I might go, in all probability ask a ton extra questions on kinesiology.
However I wish to ensure that we really get again to this expertise, as a result of I feel you defined actually clearly that feeling. And I’m certain individuals can consider occasions of their lives. Like, I’ve additionally walked into cathedrals and felt that shift and even locations in nature, the place I felt, shift, or felt it when my kids have been born. But in addition, we are able to’t, sadly, usually, all of us dwell in these locations the place always simply have infants to get to expertise that. So I’d love to speak about the way you guys are merging the expertise with this consciousness form of age-old science that has all the time existed to create this, and the way we are able to all create these increased consciousness fields in our personal lives.
Clayten: Properly, we form of stumbled upon a expertise that existed. The intent, as I mentioned, was to create a free vitality machine for humanity. And this gentleman’s intent was to…he was a male, proper, instrument and die maker, electrician. He was an older German man who was extremely succesful by way of technical expertise. And the way in which he associated to divinity was actually by way of making stuff. You already know, that’s simply how we did it. And a few persons are farmers or household man or household ladies or, no matter, businesspeople. And his approach was to make stuff. I feel it’s vital to do not forget that intent issues loads. And divinity expresses by way of every part. It expresses by way of nature. It’s kinda simpler to seek out, for me, there. Some individuals specific this by way of expertise.
And this expertise was born out of intent to serve. And he spent a variety of years at it, and I helped him refine it fairly a bit, loads. After which we took it to an entire different degree. So there may be an rising group of applied sciences which might be in a position to assist humanity, identical to the inner combustion engine supported humanity. And I’m simply speaking from an actual broad spectrum right here. Jeff, I’ll hand it over to you in a minute.
I imply, we’re speaking on computer systems which have fiber optics, you recognize, or cables going into the bottom, or the radio transmissions going to the air. And we’re in a position to be of service to your viewers, Katie, and also you’re in a position to assist, you recognize, the ladies in your life that you simply wish to join with. So, you recognize, we’re fairly oriented in the direction of service and divinity and a better energy and excessive consciousness fields. In order that’s the way in which that we see the world. And that’s the way in which that we body it.
And there’s all forms of applied sciences on the market. We simply purchased a Skinner machine, which is a makes use of a constructive electrical stimulus to assist strengthen, I suppose, the construction of the physique the place it’s used. I’ve simply been moving into Jerry Tennant’s work a little bit bit extra. He talks concerning the significance of voltage within the physique, and how you can create your constructive voltage. So there’s plenty of rising applied sciences on the market that may assist us to be more healthy. And, you recognize, we’re considered one of them.
Jeff: So it truly is similar to human consciousness and that mechanism of considering of somebody after which, you recognize, feeling love and sending them love. What we imagine occurs is there’s a discipline activated round the person who’s full of affection. And that’s what they really feel, and so they profit from that. And, you recognize, distant prayer, a few of the analysis on simply distant prayer and Reiki and different energetic medication, at a distance is identical mechanism.
There’s a system. There’s a bodily FLFE system that’s, you possibly can say, a quantum vitality system, a consciousness system. So, it has, initially, the unique inventor was working with related expertise to Nikola Tesla. Initially, it was excessive pace alternating present operating by way of coils and plates. And it was creating an lively discipline by way of that oscillation.
And it’s advanced since then to not want the electrical energy in that approach. However primarily ideas, identical to us figuring out somebody, you recognize, we consider sister or brother, the FLFE system makes use of distinctive identifier. So it is likely to be a cellphone quantity, which identifies a mobile machine. It is likely to be an deal with that identifies a property. It is likely to be coordinates, you recognize, and the house across the coordinates. And so with that identification, then there’s a quantum connection and the sector’s activated at that location. So identical to human consciousness, our system works.
And so we’re placing into this technique written directions that establish that location, that has the distinctive identifier in it. And, you recognize, that’s activating the sector. We’ve executed numerous experiments alongside the way in which to say, “How can we quantify this?” You already know, how are you going to see this? It’s so esoteric sounding, proper?
Properly, what we’ve executed is these blinded experiments now with vegetation rising. And in order that activation of the sector in an surroundings, vegetation are rising a lot sooner. You already know, we noticed in very early preliminary experiments, 29% enhance in progress. And we’re seeing an analogous form of 14% to 29% enhance in yield in a big farm research that we did this previous 12 months, the place we had farmers doing natural grains, historic grains, and a part of fields on FLFE, and a part of it wasn’t. So we had controls. They usually have been measuring the bushels per acre with their refined farm tools. And there was like 14% to twenty-eight% enhance in yield.
I imply, in order that was, the farmer didn’t know which, you recognize, acres the place which. And that was a follow-on to a few of these different plant experiments the place life is benefiting. You may see it within the plant progress. And that got here out of the tales of FLFE clients. So, FLFE is a subscription service. So, I suppose, we must always say that the place individuals…it’s $35, for the best finish. After which for households, we now have some cheaper price ranges for kids’s telephones and issues like that, right down to $10 or $12 a month.
However that activation within the discipline, individuals have been seeing their vegetation rising, and so they have been seeing their yards wanting greener, and their shrubs wanting greener in comparison with the place down the road. And that’s what led us to those, you recognize, experiments. And that’s form of the pathway for us is, we heard first from the shoppers and from our personal experiences within the discipline. After which we’ve taken it into analysis. And we’ve executed some work with IONS, the Institute of Noetic Sciences. They’ve executed experiments on the FLFE surroundings. After which Dr. Gary Schwartz and our analysis group are engaged on numerous different experiments.
Clayten: Properly, there’s a analysis tab on our web site the place you’ll be able to go in and take a look at the analysis that we did with the Institute of Noetic Sciences and with a gasoline discharge visualization digital camera in an surroundings which confirmed much less chaos within the surroundings, extra concord. We now have six or seven experiments up there. Anyway, we had one the place individuals had, you recognize, these issues that they put in your physique, and so they measure your brainwaves.
Jeff: EEG.
Clayten: EEG, yeah. I used to be gonna say EKG, however it was EEG. So there was a rise in sure brainwaves which might be related to, you recognize, peace and concord, government capabilities as effectively. So there’s extra alpha waves than the earlier one. So there’s fairly a little bit of analysis that we even have executed. So it’s not simply us saying one thing with out having proof to again it up.
Jeff: And the mind analysis at IONS actually got here out of oldsters speaking about modifications of their kids, significantly round homework and college efficiency. So when there’s extra life-force vitality in an area, so we talked about going right into a cathedral and there’s that basically enlivened feeling. When there’s extra life-force vitality accessible, it comes into the physique and, you recognize, folks that observe yoga may know it’s prana. In Chinese language medication, it’s Qi. And that circulation of Qi by way of the physique is de facto vital for our well being.
When there’s extra Qi, prana, lifeforce vitality, they’re all the identical factor. Within the surroundings, our physique is pulling that in and utilizing it, together with for cognition. And when there’s components of the mind which might be starved for vitality as a result of they’re working actually exhausting, considered one of our FLFE, what we name applications, our strategies within the discipline, is for extra vitality to go to the areas the place there’s the least vitality accessible. And in order that has proven up in individuals simply feeling like they’ve extra vitality by way of the day and efficiency.
At IONS – and this was a small research, and we have to observe it up with a bigger research, that’s the form of course of we’re on is you do a preliminary research – there was a rise in cognitive operate with a research group who have been in an FLFE surroundings in comparison with folks that weren’t or in comparison with being not in an FLFE surroundings prior. In order that lifeforce vitality accessible to the physique is without doubt one of the basic ideas that we speak about. Loads of yogis and other people in several Japanese philosophies want to focus prana by way of chanting and breath management, you recognize, particular respiratory practices. Feng Shui is designed to pay attention extra vitality in an area. After which, we’re a expertise so as to add much more vitality.
Katie: I’ll ensure that I, you recognize, have that analysis tab you talked about. I’ll make it possible for’s linked within the present notes for everyone listening, that’s wellnessmama.fm, you guys can discover all of that. And I wish to ensure that we speak about EMFs too. So I’m gonna put that on the within the parking zone to return again to in a minute.
However first, I’d love to grasp, I discover it so fascinating, this concept of merging the expertise with these fields of consciousness. And so, I do know it’s additionally a little bit bit sophisticated. However are you able to clarify a little bit bit extra tangibly for individuals who might have hassle greedy, together with me, on how that is then, like, targeted? Like, the place’s it coming from? How’s it created? After which how will we focus it on someplace that’s far-off? As a result of that is tremendous fascinating.
Clayten: Properly, we now have a machine. And as Jeff mentioned, it has all these coils and stacks. It pulls vitality from what some individuals name the ether. It simply pulls vitality from the surroundings. And it focuses it and finally concentrates it in an space the place there’s a fairly a excessive consciousness discipline. After which from there, it goes out these stacks. We name them output stacks. So, enter stacks and output stacks. After which the underside of the output stack, there’s an space, it was once about this massive. Katie, it was like three inches by 5 inches, one thing like that. After we’re experimenting, we might put three by 5 playing cards in there. And we make these little requests to divinity.
You already know, “Pricey divinity, please, assist this particular person with, you recognize, they’ve obtained an issue with their liver. They obtained actually unhealthy psoriasis, please assist them with their psoriasis.” And we put that within the machine. And you place the particular person’s image in as a result of they needed to come into this adventurous place. They heard about them. And they might really feel a constructive profit, and possibly a few of their psoriasis went away.
So then we, you recognize, did extra analysis on well being and possibly found that, “Properly, in case your liver is extra energized, then it helps with the psoriasis.” So we are able to make these extra refined requests over time. And at some point, this gentleman was, effectively, he was taking these crystals and charging them up and placing them round his home. And that’s when Jeff came to visit to the house. It was a rare house. And he would cost up these crystals. And so at some point he had this piece of a damaged tabletop, it’s a granite counter. And he put it on this house and was charging it up.
And he pulled it out, and the cellphone rang, and it was a pal, and he was speaking to his pal, and he was on the cellphone for 10 or quarter-hour, and he had this piece of marble in his hand. And when he hung the cellphone up, he realized that the arthritis in his hand was gone, couldn’t really feel any extra ache. And it was as a result of he was holding on to this piece of crystal with this super-high vitality round it. And so, he put it in his different hand and went away. After which, you recognize, after about two weeks, he seen that the cost went out of the crystal. However within the meantime, he’s been sending crystals to his pals, to individuals everywhere in the world, and so they have been holding it and their arthritic ache would go away.
So we don’t make well being claims. However what he did was he put an image of…he put the individuals within the machine, after which individuals would ship it again. Or he would ship them a brand new one. It was costing like some huge cash in courier charges, which is form of ridiculous, proper? As a result of in case you ship it by mail, and so they solely lasted two weeks, we’re gonna have per week when it obtained to ship in a single day, and it will price some huge cash.
So then we found out that we might take an image of the crystal, and if it was a excessive sufficient decision, you possibly can put that within the machine, and it will cost a crystal from the opposite facet of the planet. So he had all these footage of all these crystals within the machine and other people have been holding on that and their arthritis was going away. And in order that’s the way it works, Katie. It was based mostly upon the precept, as Jeff mentioned earlier, of the distinctive identifier. So that you needed to have an image of the crystal.
What we finally found out is we might put… So we made this output, this excessive consciousness discipline on the backside of the output stack greater and larger and larger. So it’s like three toes tall. We’re placing all these addresses in it, you recognize, and we made our personal machine and taking them out. It was like such a nuisance. Then at some point, we figured that we might put directions in there to inform the expertise to go to the database and take the instruction from the database and create that very same discipline wherever on the earth. In order that was the evolution of it.
So now we now have this database, and we make these requests to divinity as Jeff mentioned. Like, “You already know, please do that. Please do this. Please do that.” All these good issues you’ll be able to think about that you’d ask for somebody that you simply cared about. That’s what we do. We requested for all these items to occur. And, you recognize, we are able to’t actually management what occurs. We do have a variety of affect over the extent of consciousness on the surroundings. After which we make all these requests. After which, evidently if the particular person has alignment with these request, they occur faster. And if the particular person is de facto proof against the constructive requests, effectively, that’s their very own free will. Proper. So we are able to’t make you’ve the life you need, however it does provide you with 10 occasions extra vitality with each enhance in your degree of consciousness.
So, let’s say, proper now, the typical residence in America is about 250 out of 1000 on the Hawkins’ map. Now, again in 2019, it in all probability would have been, I do know, 350 or 380, like that’s the typical, proper? So that you’re going up, maybe two or 300 factors on the Hawkins’ Map of Consciousness in a house. And each a kind of factors is 10 occasions extra vitality. So it’s a really delicate vitality. However you’ve that rather more vitality to deal with the belongings you need and create the life that you simply’re intending. In order that’s form of the way it works.
Katie: Jeff, did you’ve any follow-up, or can I transfer into the EMF angle?
Jeff: No, I feel that’s nice to maneuver into that as a result of it pertains to the way it works, too.
Katie: Yeah, I figured that may result in some good follow-up. I do know for mothers, a variety of mothers, this can be a top-of-mind subject as a result of, clearly, we now have rather more of those EMFs in our life than we did a pair a long time in the past and definitely than we did a pair 100 years in the past. And now with 5G, that’s a giant subject for lots of mothers and kinda the fixed publicity to those completely different EMFs.
So I might love to listen to, I do know you guys have executed analysis on this and that there’s a approach that this really may help with this EMF equation, however are you able to stroll us by way of and clarify what’s happening in that state of affairs?
Jeff: Sure. In order we talked about, we’re testing properties for his or her degree of consciousness to succeed in our promised degree. Daily, new properties are available on. Each week, on Saturday, all of the properties on the system. And we seen, we have been getting properties that weren’t on the degree. They have been 10 factors, 20 factors decrease. And so we might discover a property by way of utilizing kinesiology. We’d name the shopper. And we’d ask if something’s modified. They usually have been telling us, very constantly, {that a} good meter, you recognize, financial institution was put in final week, or a brand new cell tower simply obtained turned down throughout the road, or we simply obtained a brand new router. That there was a connection between a decrease consciousness surroundings and a brand new EMF affect.
And so, we realized that, you recognize, that’s an indicator of a decrease well being degree, decrease vitality degree, and fewer lifeforce vitality there. That’s form of our perspective on EMFs, that we take a look at vitality or consciousness decreasing EMFs. As a result of some issues, some EMFs, are constructive, you recognize. The vitality that our hearts emit after we’re feeling love. And there’s energies from the earth, vibrations from the earth which might be constructive, from the solar.
So what we did is we researched, you recognize, what’s the most applicable materials to harmonize EMFs? So you possibly can attempt to block and deflect, soak up – in case you’re deflecting, it’s going to anyone else’s home is to harmonize it or to place an overlay on it that has it change into constructive. And so shungite is the fabric that we found in our analysis that many individuals have additionally used. And it’s one thing you’ll be able to experiment with at residence. You may get sheets of shungite, and you may put it on to a router, or onto a wise meter financial institution.
And what we’ve executed with the FLFE expertise is, so like I mentioned, you need to again up just a bit. So we imagine that there’s an lively essence related to each materials. And you’ll take a look at homeopathy and different signifies that use very, very low quantities of fabric to have an impact the place the physique is signaled by that materials, that we imagine that’s the energetic essence of that materials.
And so, you possibly are moving into multidimensional, maybe, matters. However we have been in a position, we imagine, to seize the interdimensional essence of shungite and so as to add it to the service. After which to request it to maneuver into EMF sources which might be decreasing consciousness. So we talked about this on webinars. You already know that we have been planning this and the way in which we work is we do it on ourselves, in our environments, then we broaden to our workers. After which we broaden it to our clients. However we didn’t…. Folks have been simply speaking about it. They usually mentioned, “Wow, I’m having a horrible time with EMFs. I wish to do that as quickly as potential.”
So we did a beta group with clients who have been self-selecting. You already know, they have been saying, “I actually am struggling terribly.” And so, we did. And there’s a survey in our EMF part about that. So we did a survey after individuals got here on. So we did this small group the place we added the EMF mitigation, we name it, to the surroundings with the energetic essence of shungite. And we additionally raised the extent of consciousness of the EMF-emitting gadgets. And in some unspecified time in the future, they change into constructive. So there’s some overlay of constructive vitality, we don’t fairly perceive the way it works, that’s on high of this EMF wave.
However we all the time wish to check. So we had this preliminary survey. And folks have been saying that it was the most effective sleep, you recognize, that they have been in a position to sleep the following evening higher than they’ve in simply years. In different individuals the place simply, “My ache went away.” “My anxiousness degree dropped.” “My mind fog lessened.” And a few of that took a while to occur. However we imagine that in an surroundings the place EMFs are mitigated, that the physique begins to restore the harm of all of the perturbation that’s occurring to us day by day. And for me, personally, it’s anxiousness. I really feel like rigidity in my muscle tissue once I’m in an surroundings that’s excessive in EMFs. And if I flip off/activate EMF mitigation with FLFE, then I really feel myself stress-free. And that’s what lots of people reported.
And a variety of anxiousness with kids too. We get a variety of testimonials the place individuals say when the service first got here on, kids turned much less anxious, much less irritable, simpler to work with. So we now have that analysis, and we now have some managed blinded research coming by way of a researcher on the College of Pennsylvania with, once more, individuals which might be EMF delicate. They usually gained’t know whether or not they’re on the service or not. It’s going to be a six-month research. So we’re within the means of getting that going.
Clayten: We do have some analysis on our web site at present, Katie. We discovered that with the character of the delicate vitality of FLFE that you need to discover the correct gadgets to measure that affect. Some gadgets simply don’t choose it up. So we discovered {that a} gasoline discharge visualization digital camera was one thing that would actually measure the affect.
So we did a gasoline discharge visualization digital camera research, which is on our web site. We did it with Melissa Waterman, who was the practitioner who labored with Dr. Joe Dispenza, when he was making an attempt to measure the affect of consciousness fields. He won’t have known as it that. However they’d be in an surroundings, and they’d do, you recognize, experiments the place they’d measure the surroundings with the GDV digital camera. After which they would go away the surroundings and focus vitality on it and see what would occur within the surroundings with a GDV digital camera.
So there have been experiments like that. I’m 99% certain he did that. I’m not the one to talk to it, except I’m 100%. However they did experiments like that the place they have been what’s the impact of this educating, and what’s the impact of meditation, and what’s the impact of intent on an surroundings. So we use the identical practitioner, and we now have proof of that on our web site, as effectively. So, I imply, we’re speaking about a variety of nonlinear esoteric ideas. And these specific within the 3D bodily world, and we now have, you recognize, proof that pertains to proving that. And we now have extra coming.
It seems like we was once so enthusiastic about our proof, after which we now have a lot extra coming. It’s like, “Oh, it’s new proof. That’s actually thrilling.” We had this already good proof, proper? However we’re getting increasingly, so we’re seeking to have what we name a gold customary in analysis and improvement on this space. And it takes time as a result of it’s a comparatively new space of science and there’s not as many assets there are in different areas.
Jeff: So we really feel that subscribers are the most effective or somebody making an attempt to…is the most effective researcher. So we constructed that into it the place there’s a free trial. There’s no bank card. There’s no automated billing. You really need to work to change into a subscriber after the free trial is over.
However the individuals have a management panel, and so they can flip EMF mitigation off and so they can flip it again on, flip it on and off as a lot as they need and see how they really feel. As a result of we actually need individuals to strive it out. And you’ll flip the service on and off, you are able to do the increase that we mentioned, to lift the extent. You may decrease the extent. In order that to us is the primary degree of analysis, is, what’s the FLFE neighborhood feeling, and provides them the instruments that they will use to try this.
And we discover that, primarily, ladies, our viewers, you recognize, our neighborhood is usually ladies. It’s proper within the excessive 80%. They don’t inform their household on a regular basis. So that they actually look to see what’s occurring with their kids and possibly with their husband, their accomplice. So that they do blinded research. You already know, it’s a option to see what’s occurring. And a few of the tales are actually touching.
Katie: I like that. And that ties into our earlier dialog about being your personal main healthcare supplier and well being researcher. That’s an awesome circle that we created there.
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And I really feel just like the EMF subject might change into its personal entire podcast. And hopefully will probably be, as you guys do continued analysis on this, I’d like to circle again on it. However I like that you simply talked about the thought of harmonizing versus simply blocking as a result of I feel, I’ve mentioned this earlier than, like EMFs are a factor that exists in our trendy world. We will’t absolutely disguise from them. Even when we lived in the midst of nowhere, they now are in house and directed on the planet, we are able to’t keep away from them.
In order that brings the query of how will we mitigate? Or I like the phrase harmonize much more. After which extra precisely, like, how will we check that shifting ahead? As a result of we’re speaking about very nuanced expertise and easy EMF meters, they may check the presence of these issues, they may not check the impact on the physique. And I feel that’s the precise vital query as a result of one thing is likely to be current. But when it’s not harmfully affecting the physique or been positively affecting the physique, we’re probably not measuring what we expect we’re measuring. And so, I like that you simply guys are getting very particular in that analysis.
And I like that you simply introduced up issues like grounding and the solar, that are great sources of EMFs that I feel usually get discounted. And I’m a giant fan of telling individuals, “Whenever you get up, go outdoors within the daylight barefoot for quarter-hour, and that’s the most effective medicines you may get and it’s free.” And that you simply form of tie in that idea into this expertise, which I do know you’ve talked about.
I’ll make it possible for that free trial is linked within the present notes for you guys listening. That hyperlink shall be at wellnessmama.fm. And you may as well study. There’s a lot extra data in your web site than we now have time to enter in an hour’s podcast. However like I mentioned, possibly we are able to circle again and go very, very deep on EMFs, as increasingly analysis develops from you guys.
However I do really feel like we had a tremendous start line and engaging dialog about this subject. I do know, like I mentioned in the beginning, this can be a new idea for lots of people. It may be exhausting to know. You talked about some assets, together with Dr. Hawkins’ work. I’ll hyperlink to that within the present notes as effectively, for anyone who’s not acquainted, and want to do some actually, actually enjoyable studying. And I wish to respect your time and the viewers time at this time. However earlier than we wrap up, I might love to listen to if there are any books which have had a very profound impression on both of your lives and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Clayton: Possibly, I’ll begin, we’ve been speaking about kinesiology loads. And Dr. Hawkins’ first e-book, “Energy vs. Pressure,” it’s a New York Instances bestseller. I fairly effectively canine eared my copy. The pages are falling out as a result of I’ve had it open. You already know, I opened it up and overlook to shut it. And, in fact, that impacts binding. So that may be one for me.
I might say another Hawkins. Dr. Hawkins has a e-book I feel it’s known as, “Therapeutic and Restoration” or Well being and Therapeutic. I’m drawing a clean proper now. It’s a inexperienced one with the inexperienced stripe. That’s been a giant one. For any time that I’ve had a well being problem, I’ll go on to that. Properly, I’ll move over to you, Jeff.
Jeff: I feel the latest e-book that’s had a big impression on me is, “Tremendous Synchronicity” by Dr. Gary E. Schwartz. And its in depth analysis into synchronicities and the way they’re simply so past likelihood. You already know, they’re simply virtually unattainable. And what they inform us, and for me, it was that these synchronicities are pointing the way in which to some both way of life or connection to another person that may fulfill some intention that I’ve that these synchronicities present up. And that it’s a approach of divinity talking, you possibly can say, or a path within the circulation of the universe. So I used to be actually struck by his scientific rigor that he introduced to actually learning synchronicity. In order that was one that basically, actually obtained me.
Katie: That could be a new suggestion for me. I’ll put that within the present notes. And I additionally simply added it to my Kindle. So, I’m excited to leap into that one. This was such a enjoyable dialog. Like I mentioned, I do know we went into some matters which may actually be new ones for lots of people. And I do know that you simply guys have a variety of analysis. If persons are eager about studying extra or possibly really feel like they nonetheless don’t perceive how considered one of these items we’ve talked about works, and so I’ll put some extra detailed hyperlinks to all of these. For you guys, in case you’re listening when you’re driving, otherwise you’re exercising, you possibly can discover all these within the present notes.
Any parting phrases or recommendation for anybody? It could possibly be associated to this or not. I don’t, if I can get my very own. However one which I’ve in relation to consciousness and our personal expression into the world I like, and any interplay with somebody to ask the query, like how can I like this particular person finest on this second? However I might love to listen to any parting recommendation that both of you’ve.
Clayton: I’ll begin with that, possibly to provide you a second to suppose, Jeff. I didn’t know you have been a doula. Otherwise you have been concerned in birthing different kids. So I don’t know if that’s an excellent synchronicity. However that’s a cool synchronicity. And I simply obtained advised to inform that story. Typically, it’s attention-grabbing to marvel the place our ideas come from, actually, it’s attention-grabbing. We’ve explored that with kinesiology, you recognize, after we imagine there’s angelic realms, and whenever you ask divinity for assist, and to bless different individuals, you get helped.
And I feel love begets extra love. And I do know that your intention in the direction of individuals you serve, Katie, is excessive, and it’s one of many issues we form of examined after we have been speaking to you. And it’s like, “Wow, she actually cares concerning the individuals she talked to.” So it was grateful to be within the firm of different individuals who have good intent. And for some cause, my inside science geek needs to simply go away individuals with a potential experiment, in addition to all of the management panel and issues in FLFE. Properly, really this does relate to the management panel.
You already know, there’s an EMF…as a result of your viewers actually is eager about that, you possibly can put your palms in your router after which have anyone flip the EMF mitigation on and off in your management panel in FLFE, and see in case your physique strikes in the direction of it or away from it, or a wise meter. Good meters, I actually discover. I don’t discover routers as a lot, however good meters, it’s like, wow, the vitality, once I simply maintain that, it’s prefer it begins to… I really feel like I begin to shrivel. After which once I activate the EMF mitigation within the management panel, then it’s like I can simply breathe and calm down. I really feel like my posture will get higher. It’s a very sensible, you recognize, do-it-yourself instance of one thing you’ll be able to simply strive, you recognize. It doesn’t price you something. And we like to experiment. We’re form of geeks, so I simply attempt to move that on.
Jeff: Yeah, and speaking about fields of consciousness round us on a regular basis and these peak experiences that we’ve had in our lives, like births. There’s some timeless nature about these experiences the place, I might say, let’s experiment by simply remembering or placing your self again in that delivery, that second, or some peak expertise. And that feeling is simply there. Like, it’s simply at this time. Like, it’s occurring proper now.
And that there’s a timelessness in these fields that we are able to then use to entry anytime that we have to increase, you recognize, that we’re in a, you recognize, robust state of affairs the place our frustration or on the finish of our persistence, to name in that peak second, that discipline to activate that discipline round us. And that useful resource assist ourselves to be extra useful resource in that second. So, I’d simply go away with that.
Katie: I adore it. I feel that’s an ideal place to place a pin in it for at this time. However hopefully future conversations to return. And for all of you listening, undoubtedly try the opposite analysis accessible on their web site, in addition to their 14-day free trial. In contrast to most issues on the web, you’ll be able to really simply strive it. You don’t need to enter your bank card and provides them your first baby or something loopy to strive it. You may simply do it.
And I’m very curious to listen to from all of you listening, particularly on the EMF factor and the self-experimentation. That is, like I mentioned, a subject that we’re all going to cope with in our lifetimes. And I feel there’s nice methods to do it that aren’t simply dwelling in a cave. So I’m very grateful for you each being right here at this time and sharing your analysis, which is, I feel, a brand new fascinating realm for lots of people listening and I’m simply studying about myself, so deep gratitude, and thanks to you each.
Clayten: Thanks, Katie.
Jeff: Thanks, Katie.
Katie: And as all the time, due to all of you for listening and sharing your most precious assets, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us all at this time. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of “The Wellness Mama Podcast.”
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